From: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Subject: Skunk Works Digest V2 #26 Reply-To: skunk-works-digest@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Errors-To: skunk-works-digest-owner@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Skunk Works Digest Friday, 11 December 1992 Volume 02 : Number 026 In this issue: Re: Methane ramjets & "Gaspipe" Re: Lockheed buys GD Military Sources GD Sale to Lockheed Excalibur? Re: Lockheed buys GD Military Excalibur? Re: Lockheed buys GD Military Excalibur? See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the skunk-works or skunk-works-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Davidw.Thompson@Corp.Sun.COM (David W. Thompson - Human Resources Planning) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 13:58:35 PST Subject: Re: Methane ramjets & "Gaspipe" > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 16:09:10 EST > From: Rick Lafford > To: skunk-works@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu > Subject: Re: Methane ramjets & "Gaspipe" > > Just a guess but I wouldn't think that anything capable of flying > fast would have much for a glide ratio. I believe an F-16 does > well if it gets 4:1 power out but then who said the object was > power out. > > I wonder what the speed is to achieve that glideslope. > > > Rick > I should think that would be easy to calculate, if the transcript of the radio transmissions includes time stamps... Dave ------------------------------ From: larry@ichips.intel.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 14:22:23 -0800 Subject: Re: Lockheed buys GD Military I guess this means that Lockheed is now one of the NASP Team Members? Larry ------------------------------ From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 11:20:05 PST Subject: Sources Sources? Sources? We don't need no steenking sources! Actually, the source didn't tell me the stuff about the A-12 and the F-23. I hypothesized the questions and when his eyes bugged out and he said "I can't talk about that" in a gruff voice, I figured I'd landed somewhere close. And he used to work for Mac, I rate him as highly reliable. At least, what he 'can' tell me... ;-) Rick Rick Pavek | Never ask a droid to outdo its program. kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | Seattle, WA | It wastes your time | and annoys the droid. ------------------------------ From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 11:30:38 PST Subject: GD Sale to Lockheed While the implications of the sale of the aircraft business is obvious, One has to note that Lockheed not only buys the building and production lines but the documentation and research for everything they've done. My point is that with Lockheed becoming the largest military a/c manufacturer it also theoretically becomes the largest producer of classified military aircraft, as GD was working on them also. As if it weren't already... If we stood a chance of declassifying any of the GD stuff, we've lost it now that Lockheed will have it. I mean to say that any classified stuff GD was or is working on will go to Lockheed ADP. Some line about Texas skunks might be appropriate here... they do have them, you know. :-) Rick ------------------------------ From: rbarton@who.cc.trincoll.edu (Ran Barton, III) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:14:20 -0500 Subject: Excalibur? >Anybody know what MOA stands for? Just a wild guess comes up with >"Military Operational Area". And I'd heard Dreamland and Groom were >both the same area. Of course, I'd also heard they were separate, >but what's the case? Groom Lake is where they store the Soviet birds. >Also, they have a RCS range out there with the B2 one of the current types >and they supposedly moved Excaliber from Groom Lake to Tonapah (I've got ^^^^^^^^^ >a 1/4 page of those freqs, too). Rumor has it that Dreamland is where >they (whoever they are) have the discs. What's Sally got? Just the proverbial dumb question... what's Exclaibur? Thanks, Ran ______________________________________________________________ || Ran Barton, III '93 | A year passes apace || || rbarton@who.trincoll.edu | and proves ever new; || || Trinity College | First things and final || || 300 Summit Street - Box 955 | conform but seldom. || || Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | -The Gawain Poet || ||_______________________________|__________________________|| ------------------------------ From: Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 22:13:41 EST Subject: Re: Lockheed buys GD Military There are (were) 5 companies working on NASP. 3 airframe companies and 2 engine companies. And at this moment I can only remember 2 of them, Rockwell (airframe) and Pratt & Whitney (engine). So there were 6 configurations being considered, but that was a long time ago. I have no idea who is doing what now. Brent L. Bates Phone:(804) 864-2854 M.S. 361 FAX:(804) 864-8469 NASA Langley Research Center Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero00.larc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ From: rbarton@who.cc.trincoll.edu (Ran Barton, III) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:14:20 -0500 Subject: Excalibur? >Anybody know what MOA stands for? Just a wild guess comes up with >"Military Operational Area". And I'd heard Dreamland and Groom were >both the same area. Of course, I'd also heard they were separate, >but what's the case? Groom Lake is where they store the Soviet birds. >Also, they have a RCS range out there with the B2 one of the current types >and they supposedly moved Excaliber from Groom Lake to Tonapah (I've got ^^^^^^^^^ >a 1/4 page of those freqs, too). Rumor has it that Dreamland is where >they (whoever they are) have the discs. What's Sally got? Just the proverbial dumb question... what's Exclaibur? Thanks, Ran ______________________________________________________________ || Ran Barton, III '93 | A year passes apace || || rbarton@who.trincoll.edu | and proves ever new; || || Trinity College | First things and final || || 300 Summit Street - Box 955 | conform but seldom. || || Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | -The Gawain Poet || ||_______________________________|__________________________|| ------------------------------ From: Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 22:13:41 EST Subject: Re: Lockheed buys GD Military There are (were) 5 companies working on NASP. 3 airframe companies and 2 engine companies. And at this moment I can only remember 2 of them, Rockwell (airframe) and Pratt & Whitney (engine). So there were 6 configurations being considered, but that was a long time ago. I have no idea who is doing what now. Brent L. Bates Phone:(804) 864-2854 M.S. 361 FAX:(804) 864-8469 NASA Langley Research Center Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero00.larc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ From: rbarton@who.cc.trincoll.edu (Ran Barton, III) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:14:20 -0500 Subject: Excalibur? >Anybody know what MOA stands for? Just a wild guess comes up with >"Military Operational Area". And I'd heard Dreamland and Groom were >both the same area. Of course, I'd also heard they were separate, >but what's the case? Groom Lake is where they store the Soviet birds. >Also, they have a RCS range out there with the B2 one of the current types >and they supposedly moved Excaliber from Groom Lake to Tonapah (I've got ^^^^^^^^^ >a 1/4 page of those freqs, too). Rumor has it that Dreamland is where >they (whoever they are) have the discs. What's Sally got? Just the proverbial dumb question... what's Exclaibur? Thanks, Ran ______________________________________________________________ || Ran Barton, III '93 | A year passes apace || || rbarton@who.trincoll.edu | and proves ever new; || || Trinity College | First things and final || || 300 Summit Street - Box 955 | conform but seldom. || || Hartford, CT 06106-3100 | -The Gawain Poet || ||_______________________________|__________________________|| ------------------------------ End of Skunk Works Digest V2 #26 ******************************** To subscribe to skunk-works-digest, send the command: subscribe skunk-works-digest in the body of a message to "listserv@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu". 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